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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 6 days ago #37112

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Hi Folks,

The next trip details are;

Location : Poacher’s Cave
Meet Place : Cilcain Bridge Car Park
Meet Date : Thursday 21st Nov 2019
Meet Time : 6:30pm-6:45pm
Requirements : Wellies, overalls, Lid/Lamp, gloves (You will get wet and muddy – you should bring a change of clothes)

Notes :
A great trip for cavers of any amount of experience (from “none” to “I’ve done it all”). An opportunity to see the Big Boss, clandestine cave fish and, of course, your wonderful and eternal colleagues of UCET. On this occasion we may have a reporter from the Daily Post with us. Also, we have some newer members who will no doubt be thrilled!!!


Link to Car Parking;

www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.1776915,-3.216...thumbfov%3D100?hl=en


It would be really handy to know if you are coming (no worries if you aren’t or don’t know).

See you soon…..

:)

Ian
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 6 days ago #37113

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There is a 2nd trip to Pepe's ..... this is SRT only and Mike is finishing hanging ropes in there .......

There is probably an opportunity to be digging at Doug's too .....

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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 6 days ago #37114

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Srt competent peep's can go to the bottom platform for a mooch
You will get very wet in the shaft
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 6 days ago #37117

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Mike is on holiday and may not be home in time for this trip if this is the case this one should be put off
until he gets home, this is a 330ft deep on 1 rope theres has been only 3 people who have done this depth in 1 go in a wet shaft it is the same as doing gaping gills main pitch, it is a big undertaking and in my opinion it would be safer all round if a 2nd rope dropped on a pully system just in case as any problems
occur mid pitch the person could be hauled up and communication signals are restricted at this depth in other words unless you are fit with the right gear and done this sort of depth do not try to be a hero.
I am not trying to put people off caving but to just beaware of whats involved as there is no communication between the bottom and the top without 2 way radio,s you must have a competent srt person who can ascend this shaft if there is no one on the surface this is one of the reasons we once had a winch on here it was
not about getting time it was about getting up, if a party of 4 were down it would take the fittest about
half an hour up and up to 1 hr for the slowest, rescue from mid pitch without a surface crew would be next to impossible and in reality hung up in theses conditions for 2 hrs or more your life would start to ebb fast I have been in this situation with my fellow cavers and when someone wants to go to sleep on a wet cold pitch means they have not got much time left and its f..ckin frightening for all so please have
a 2nd rope in place and at least 3 on the surface in case help is needed, mike is a top of the range when it comes to srt and one off the best but he cannot be next to all on this descent if you are not confident tell him because you risk his life if you get it wrong,i just want you all to be safe. mick
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 6 days ago #37118

I agree with you mick.
I think it should be double ropped
So that every member goes down with a competent srt person up and down that way there is expert help just feet away.
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 6 days ago #37119

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Ppppffff
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 6 days ago #37120

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I will be home and I will be there, Mick it would be handy if you are there to keep an eye on Steve Kennedy going up and down the first platform whilst i replace the bolts below
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 5 days ago #37121

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So none srt people can go down a 330 ft shaft but I carnt take people into rhyd alyn with harness and cowstails??? Seems fair!
If it's deep and dark, let's embark
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 5 days ago #37122

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I don't think anyone should be aloud to godown north henblas shaft without FULL SRT training!
If it's deep and dark, let's embark
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 5 days ago #37123

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kenton wrote:
I don't think anyone should be aloud to godown north henblas shaft without FULL SRT training!
If you LOOK at my original response you will see i said SRT COMPETENT peep's only
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 5 days ago #37124

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there you go Mike as I said we should call the club united spec savers caving club any way back to today if you can put it off until next week I can make but I have a slot with boydy for Thursday for the last of the clubs stock take its took me a month to get this so cannot put this off as I need to finalise the books,
sorry mick.
ps will be in the pub this week when I am done
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 5 days ago #37125

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It looks like I'm going to Poachers with the rabble :dry: :dry:
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 5 days ago #37126

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We have SEVEN confirmed newbies coming ..... anyone who can lend a hand to hold a hand will be very welcome (and needed) :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 5 days ago #37127

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Mick, I think this is the first thing you have ever said in all the years I've known you that I've actually agreed with:
madmicks wrote:
it is a big undertaking and in my opinion it would be safer all round if a 2nd rope dropped on a pully system just in case as any problems
occur mid pitch the person could be hauled up and communication signals are restricted at this depth in other words unless you are fit with the right gear and done this sort of depth do not try to be a hero.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Thurs 19th Nov Poacher's Cave 2 weeks 1 day ago #37147

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Spot the difference!



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