Who is coming on Boxing Day?

List so far....

John N
Dan the picture man
Dylan
Tom
Vikki (Cave Frog)
Richard Sawyer
Andy - friend of Dan.

Bella N - not comming

What time to meet? - 11.00 am at the the quarry carpark, some people may nmeet at Four Crosses pub a bit earlier.


Where to go? - Cabin Shaft Minera, then mooch guided by Tom and Dylan and Dan.

depends on what the trip is john.

needs to be worth me making the 1 - 2 hour trip

At the moment I am open to anything. I'm not sure if Bella can come - although she is supposed to be with me on Wednesdays.

I'd like to come along if there's something going on

I would suggest that you took us into Cwm Orthin, but Dan is probably a bit sick of that place now.

I'm free on wednesday

Thats fantastic news Dylan!
I suggest we all wait till we have a good group and then decide between us. Do you have any suggestions? Are there any more caves near you in the Corwen / Llangollen area?

I may be up for joining you on Boxing Day if you decide to do something local - Local being 15mile-ish.

Oh, and John you have a FB message but i'm not sure how often you check it!

Hopefully see you all soon.
Tom.

I can make this trip

Dan I'm on the Wirral this week so can meet you en route if that helps you

helps a lot as my car is still crap, i daren't ask stacey to borrow hers either, she didnt like her christmas present. Thanks

any news on this, it is 14.30 the day before this is supposed to be happening.

Sorry, didn't realise John had edited the original post. Has anybody got any further on this idea?Mnera or something like. Or there's the cave with the bolted door ( unsure of name) which is pretty for photographers and there's a climb id like a look at downstream if anybody fancies it?

Please post whatever progress so I know whats happening, 11am sounds early enough to me time to sleep off the alcohol..

Tom

i'm happy to go with the flow.

which is the cave? can anyone get us into ODB?

do we have gear to get into minera? (cabin)

I've gear for Cabin ( ladder + line). The cave ends in sump both ways but has pretty gour pools within,. No gear required.

Tom

ragman passage in llyn du? i've been in there a couple of times

I'm not sure, is it? What's access into the main Llyn ddu cave? Just out of interest. And where doesthe climb at the downstream sump go?

Also does anyone have a spare lid? Don't really fancy trekking back to the depths of Wales for mine.

i dont know about access into the main system, i think the way your looking at getting in is through a metal hatch in a stone built wall held on with 4 bolts, one in each corner.

if your talking about a climb up, it suspect it will be the way back into minera mine (ragman vein)

I am sorry I have been away for most of to-day (Ymas Day). Ive had lots of visitors eating and drinking, but all gone now. Just the tidying up to do, and I'm ready for tomorrow's trip.

Vikki.....
I have several spare helmets and lights. I can also bring Bella's (clean) cave suit, and boots.

Tom.....
My electron may be a bit too short for cabin shaft, can you confirm that your's is long enough, and also that the gate at the top is open? Do you know you way around the Minera Maze?

I have been to Cabin once before (Ian filmed it - Tim is in yellow Tele-tubby cave suit, Deano does a near naked show at the end). But I did not like the squeezes or getting lost and most of all I really never went caving again after climbing that wet shaft. That feat was well beyond my confort zone!. But I am told there are other routes within the Minera system. Am I right that this is your home ground Tom?

If there is a problem with Cabin shaft access then are there any other systems within near reach? Is the blue oil drum access route to the chamber near the shaft that leads to the Grand Turk also permanently open?

Can you suggest a meeting place Tom? Can you also post a Google Earth link to it on this topic? Can everyone else then confirm they can get there by 11.00 am tomorrow - Boxing Day.

That's the one, yes. But regarding the climb, ill pop up midweek sometime and check it out - been bugging me for a while.

Vikki, unfortunately I havent a spare.

What's everybody else's thoughts on trip then; John? Dylan? Dan?